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competing a couple weeks ago and this is my first day of official duty. >> i'm happy to report miss kentucky did not slip on the official duty the penguin left on the senate floor and that does it for "ridiculist" history. . >> tonight, on the eve of the crucial republican primary, the battle royale. >> mr. speaker wasn't happy with the debates. >> is it time for one gop candidate to get a pink slip. tonight, former ceo, jack welch, why he says one of the least popular candidates could decide the election. the tale of the tape. new remarkable evidence 48 years after the assassination of john f. kennedy. >> we plan to take him directly to walter reed. >> chilling conversations on air
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force one hours after the president's death never heard before. what do they mean and why are they surfacing now? what it all means. plus, the single most annoying man i've ever met in my entire life. i said it before and it remains true today. >> i'm loved by millions. >> you'll see. >> unbelievable, howie mandel is back for more. this is piers morgan tonight. >> good evening. mitt romney has to be feeling pretty good about the sunshine state. a poll has him as the 14 point favorite, and paul in third, tied with santorum. he sounds like a man who expects to win. >> sure is fun. what a day this is. with a turnout like this, i'm beginning to feel we might win tomorrow. what do you think? i know the speaker is not real happy, speaker gingrich.
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he's not excited these days, i know, it's sad. he's been flailing around trying to go after me one thing and another. >> and gingrich says he will cede nevada and michigan to mitt romney. is the writing on the wall? >> jack welch, the founder of the jack management suinstitute. >> i see you're in florida, i can tell by the tans you are sporting. the last time in my studio, you were very pro mitt romney. how do you think things have played out since we last spoke? >> i feel a lot better tonight than i did after south carolina, piers. >> it's been a fascinating race. south carolina clearly was a shock to the romney system. you saw a very different mitt romney in the debates last week,
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a new ferocious mitt romney, not prepared go down without a hell of a fight and that debate performance turned him into the front-runner again. was that the kind of mitt romney you've been looking for? >> i'm a big fan of mitt romney, not because of his combativeness, because of his intellect and ability to persuade all kinds of people to get together and get the right answers. i think he's a solutions person. this combative thing is necessary during these primaries, which is sort of crazy. but he's more of a conciliatory, pull teams together and get the right answer guy. >> suzy, we're hearing tonight, newt gingrich may be prepared to cede both nevada and michigan, neither of which he would have expected to do very well at. what does that tell you about the way his campaign is now going? >> i think that newt is going to go all the way to the end, the way he says he will go all the
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way to the end. he sees himself as the conservative solution. i think he's in it for the long haul. you have to think how long newt's career has been. he's been up and down. he's been prince and pig. he is going to ride this one out. i'm not thinking that him ceding these states early on is any kind of signal of newt saying i'm out of it. he will stick it out and thinks he's the answer. >> jack, is it good or bad thing for the republican party this goes on. people seem to forget when barack obama and hillary clinton went head to head, it was for quite a long sustained period. it got very nasty and they tried to rip each other's throats out. you can't help but conclude it helped barack obama in his later fight with john mccain? could we not think it could help mitt romney and he could turn into a more formidable opponent during the debates last week than if he had won south
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carolina and already won the nomination? >> mitt romney's biggest issue is being comfortable in his own skin, letting people know who he really is. every day he has a chance to do that, the better chance he has. he's improved dramatically over the past eight weeks and all we can hope for is he gets better against a real campaigner, barack obama. >> suzy, the big problem i have with mitt romney, a strange criticism, a very nice guy, interviewed him twice, like him, lots of personal skills, very good track record, good family man and so on. he seemed a little bit dull. what i was excited by. i don't have a horse in the race, not republican or democrat, what i found exciting about the debates last week, i saw a side i didn't know existed. i saw a guy prepared to really fight. that changed my impression of him. >> i think you hit the nail on the head when you say that he's got this problem with boring
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people. but people are going to be deciding on one hand a bore and in the case with newt, it comes down to newt and mitt, a bumble bee. newt is like that bumble bee that goes from idea to idea, the moon one day and got knows what he will come up with. he says i'm the candidate of ideas. pick some ideas instead of 25 ideas. voters will say, bore, bumble bee, bore, bumble bee. i think when people decide what they will vote on ultimately, most americans would rather have a bore than a bumble bee. >> piers, i saw a tough side of mitt romney in the salt lake city olympics. i was involved with nbc at that time. we were afraid the whole thing was going down the drain. there was a corruption scandal out there. 9/11 had just occurred. we had bet a billion dollars or so on the olympics and we thought we were losing the whole thing. he went out there and cleaned that whole mess up with a fi
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firmness and leadership skill you would not believe. so that's when i became a real mitt romney fan, when i saw him pull that mess together. >> and the upcoming- >> sorry, suzy, after you. >> the upcoming campaign against barack obama, barack obama is a fantastic campaigner, there's nothing like him on the stump giving a speech. he's fiery and passionate. you can't have then mitt out there doing his standard statiststick where he is understated. he has to meet barack obama where he is. what we saw in the debates last week where he is more feisty and commanding, that's necessary going forward. >> and also, jack, i imagine you were delight about this, turned this whole debate from his wealth and success from what looked like a negative because he looked so defensive about it into much more of a positive and finally stood up i guess you would have done a long time ago, hey, i've been successful, so
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what? that's the american way, isn't it? >> finally, he did it. it took him a long time. he's not a brag gardard guy. candid like that doesn't come easy. patting himself on the back wasn't easy and he did it. he did it in a first class way. he is a first class person. in doing that, he put the thing on the table. people might not like it. john kennedy was a wealthy man. franklin roosevelt was wealthy. teddy was wealthy, we had wealthy presidents. >> he said the important thing, did not inherent-inherit my wealth. people are under the impression he was born with a silver spoon. i did not inherit my wealth. >> john kennedy inherited his wealth and didn't have to say
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it. >> times have changed because when john kennedy-wise president there was not occupy wall street going on. >> okay. you win. >> yeah! did everyone hear that. >> i want to play you one of the attack ads mitt romney played after south carolina interestingly not through a pack, as he had done before but through himself. let's watch this. >> gingrich was paid over $1.6 million by the scandal ridden agency that helped create the crisis. >> i offered advice as historian. >> really? >> and then quit in disgrace and then cashed in as insider. if he wins, this man would be very happy. >> i approved this message. i'm mitt romney. >> attack ads have always been around in american politics. the danger, if these guys keep getting nastier and nastier
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about each other, what happens when one eventually wins and has to take on the democratic president. barack obama can just start replaying all this stuff, look, this guy is a liar, this guy is inflammable, blah blah blah, all good fodder for the opposition as well, isn't it? >> look, that's what's always said in the primary. what this is going to come down to in september and october is what does this economy look like? how is it doing? do we have a recovery that's real? or do we have this tepid, few hundr hundred,000, hundred thousand, few,0 thousan jobs a month, is that enough? do we want to get occupy wall street jobs? do we want to change the argument? do we want to pull ourselves together? do we want to stop fighting each other? do we want a president a unifier, rather than divider?
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those are the questions. it's not about what somebody said about somebody february or march of this year. that's not the big game. >> what is the answer. sorry, after you, suzy. >> whatever they're saying in these attack ads will be repeated by the democrats when that happens and new attacks that they haven't thought about of each other, there'll be more new attacks, bring it on now. >> jack, what is the truth about the state of the american economy right now, do you think? >> we have a very tepid recovery, but we do have a recovery. the fourth quarter was 2.8%, nothing like we hoped for. it will be a little slower in the first quarter this year. i think things are going to flatten out in the 2-3% range. we'll have job growth in the 100 to 200,000 range per month. piers, we have 5 to 7 million
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people drop out of the work force. assume we get 500,000 jobs, that's fraction of what dropped out of it. the real unemployment rate will be double digit. we don't have a real recovery. we are so oppressed by this government's regulatory actions on every facet of the economy, they just appointed another commission to go after the mortgage thing, 55 more investigators, just when the mortgage thing was being settled why the banks, they piled another thing on in the state of the union thing. it's crazy, piers. it's just regulation after regulation. the jobs bill had a regulation that said, if you didn't employ unemployed people, you could get a fine of $300,000 for discrimination, piers. everything is punitive, nothing is about incentives.
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it's all backwards. >> jack, i have to take a break so you can calm down, have a glass of water and gather your steam again for the next assault. i will ask you about barack oba obama, as a president after the brea break. >> i'm totally calm. >> i imagine that will get you even more riled. >> piers, i'm calm.
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covered by 90% of insurance plans, including medicare. right now, warren buffet pays a lower tax rate than his secretary. do we want to keep these tax cuts for the wealthiest americans or do we want to keep our investments in everything else? like education and medical resear research. >> president obama at the state of the union last week calling for any making over a million dollar a year to pay a 30% tax rate. >> let me dial back on your anti-obama rhetoric. the reality is if you're barack obama, things are looking quite good at the moment. you had on the foreign policy part, stunning successes.
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bin laden getting killed, the seals in action last week rescuing somebody captured by soma somali pirates and troops out of iraq. foreign policy, big ticket. the car industry improving and the economy improving, albeit slowly. if you're in the white house and watching mitt romney and gingrich going at it like a couple in a sack, i don't think you're feeling too bad at the moment. >> you are feeling good but you realize you have a country in employment of double digits, real unemployment and people in the streets in washington, oakland, california, rioting. you have a country where you are dividing the haves and the ha have-nots. you are a country you are yelling about paying more taxes to the rich that don't pay them. i've never paid less than 30%
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taxes so i'd be happy with a 30% tax rate. you have a lot of things going on here. >> what about this, jack? what about this? we know barack obama can sing because we heard him sing al green brilliantly earlier in the week. i want to play you a bit of footage tonight involving your man, mitt romney, this could cost romney the entire election. watch this. >> ♪ oh beautiful for spacious skies for amber waves of grain ♪ ♪ for purple mountains imagimaj above the fruited plain ♪ ♪ america america god shed his grace on thee ♪ ♪ and crown eed thy good with brotherhood from sea to shining sea ♪ >> now, no offense to mitt
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romney, who is a game guy for going at that, but, frankly, given the comparison between barack obama's brilliant impression of al green and the way that just got murdered, i think this could be an actual issue. >> you're missing the point. it's the difference between the songs that they're singing. mitt romney didn't exactly do a beautiful job on that song but think about what he's singing, okay? it's that patriotic song. he goes all the way through it. i think there's actually something quite appealing. then you have the very cool barack obama singing al green, okay, it really -- that is the two different americas, isn't it? so i think that, you know- >> take that, piers. >> what you're basically saying, suzy, mitt romney's inability to sing could become an electoral positive for him. >> the subject. >> no. if they put them side by side, there will be a bunch of americans, maybe not the americans on the coast. i think there will be a bunch of
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americans in the middle who will say, that's what my dad sounds like when he sings it. >> that would be my reaction and that would be a problem. my father shouldn't sing either. let's turn to ron paul. you wrote a column about ron paul and you said he should pull out of the race now. why should he pull out? >> we wrote a column where we tied a business situation to a political situation, trying to tie current events to business lessons. when somebody leaves a company, you want them to leave loving them as much on the way out as you loved them on the way in. you want to give them severance, you want to make them friends, because some day they will be customers, supply, et cetera. when ron paul exits the stage at his timing, whether it be in august at the convention or just before the convention, the
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republican party should learn a lesson from business and treat him with great dignity and give him a place on the convention floor, give him a speech in primetime, take care of him, so that his followers, those smart young followers, our children, others, those young people who wouldn't normally pull the r lever will say our guy got treated right. his platform is being listened to, his comments on the fed are being listened to, his arguments about the war are being at least listened to, that's what we've got to do. we've got to treat him with dignit dignity. >> is it good for the party if rick can sore rum and paul continue to the bitter end or should one of them take one for the team fairly soon? >> i think it's good if they end up being strong supporters and believers in whoever the winning
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candidate is. they have to exit on their time schedule. they have to be tated -- they both have done a hell of a job of staying in this game and doing a first class job in the debate, both of them. a lot of people thought ron paul won the last debate although everybody said mitt won, a lot of people were supportive of ron paul in that debate. look, these people deserve their dignity and their voice. if the republicans are smart, they willett the let these two gentlemen exit on their time frame, on their schedule with their arguments in the foreplay. >> i will reluctantly let you two exit now, much as i'd like to continue. jack and suzy welch, as always, a great pleasure. thank you very much. >> thanks, piers. coming up, the mother of all conspiracy theories, newly released tapes from air force one recorded in the hours after the assassination of president
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it's been 48 years since president john f kennedy was assassinated in dallas. one key source that day was a tape of the radio traffic from air force one as it flew back from washington carrying his body. until now, only a heavily edited
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tape was possible and until tonig tonight, sorting out the details, joining me to discuss this. a fascinating discovery. how did you come across this extra bit of the tape. >> we felt the same way. we literally found it at the bottom of a box, part of the collection of ted clifton who worked in the white house for john f. kennedy and lyndon johnson. left the white house in '65, died in '91, his wife passed away in 2009 when they sold the estate. this was personal effects. >> this was the box you found the tape in? >> this is the box and the tape is in it. it's a reel-to-reel. when we found it, it was just a box of reel-to-reel with no knowledge of what's in it. we had our suspicions but no knowledge of what is in it. it says flight traffic. he left the white house in '65.
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the version we had before came out in the late 30e6 60'60s, ea '70s. the time frame didn't match. >> other than the discovery, truly fascinate, is there anything significant on this extra bit of footage or not? >> absolutely there is. not only individual elements of the tape, things we haven't heard before, but the fact it fills in holes. historians had specific questions, where's the beginning part of this conversation we only have the tail end of. he refers to a cadillac. we have the beginning portion. also the tale of the tape. raw tapes gone missing and this original investigator. how did we get from a to b? >> let me go to douglas. you're a big historian. you know this area very well. how circuit do ysignificant do these tapes are suddenly surface ing like this? >> it's fascinating. you have to put in perspective
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who general clifton is. there was no white house chief of staff for kennedy. he was the military aide serving in that function. when kennedy was killed, clifton was put in charge of military arrangements, what do we do if the president dies at parkland hospital? how do we move his body? what do we do with first lady jackie kennedy wearing a pink chanel suit with blood on it. and we have this remarkable tape of the journey from air force one from dallas to washington. it raises a lot of question, why did 45 minutes of the tape edited? so people making their judgments on the warren commission were missing this 45 minutes and all sorts of nuggets on this 45 minute tape cherry picked and analyzed by scholars for years and months to come. >> let's play a clip from the original tape that was put forward we new existed puts it
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in context. let's hear it first. >> wayside, wayside, this is the "situation room." i read from the ap bulletin, kennedy apparently shot in head. he fell facedown in back seat of his car. blood was on his head. mrs. kennedy cried, oh, no, and tried to hold up his head m. connolly remained half seated, slumped to the left. there was blood on his face and forehead. the president and the governor were rushed to parkland hospital, near the dallas trademark, where kennedy was to have made a speech. over. >> that's part of the tape we've heard before but it puts it in context. what i want to play now are completely unheard parts of the tape which have been discovered in this tiny box at major general ted clifton's house. let's listen to the first clip from this. >> general lemay is in a c 140.
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last three numbers are 497. >> 497, last three numbers. >> right. he's inbound. his code name is grandson and i want to talk to him. >> now, the significance of that, again, to douglas is the fact that it involves general lemay, known to be an opponent of president kennedy's, this is sourcing of him. what does that tell you? >> that's right. why did general lemay get cut out of the censored version of this air force one tape? lemay had been an enemy of president kennedy. he was furious about the way kennedy handled the cuban missile crisis. he wanted to have bombed cuba. just angry kennedy was seeming to be lackadaisical about the effort in vietnam. people have always wanted to know where was curtis lemay on the day kennedy was shot? been mixed messages about it. this tape provides exactly where
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he was. we hear a colonel dorman calling air force one saying we have to call curtis lemay, otherwise it will be too late, for whatever too late means. it's significant placi placing -- dealing with the kennedy assassination, trying to understand where the characters were, here is a new mystery, scholars and conspiracy theorists will be looking at. >> the fascinating thing to me, it may not mean anything. but the fact they removed all reference to general lemay, who had this history with kennedy makes it absolutely compelling. who decided to take that out and why would they remove all references to him. let's play the second clip from the unheard element of this tape, again, really interesting. >> general heatton, this is dr. burkely. >> yes. >> you, the military district of washington in regards to taking
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care of the remains of the president kennedy and plan on having the president taken directly to walter reed and probably mrs. kennedy will also be going out there. we will clarify that later. >> oh. all right. >> nathan, i'll come to you with this. tweechb admiral burton and heaton, a piece of history. the most infamous moment of modern history and you have all this stuff no one has ever heard before. >> that's a powerful clip because that's not what ended up happening, debate where to send the president's body, walter reed or bethesda is really what makes this tape central. this is how we know what the federal government did immediately after the assassination. the fact you have the surgeon general talking with kennedy's personal doctor making a decision which later is contrary to what ends up happening, that is powerful. why that was cut out here,
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there's a full lead up to this, why that moment was cut out, no one's around who could tell you. >> you are trying to sell this. i will go to douglas to see if he can put a valuation on this? what is the worth, douglas, would you say, from historical important point of view? >> you can't write about the kennedy assassination without dropling dropling -- grappling with the contents of this tape. it places everything that occurred, just that clip you just played. why if the radio is saying you're taking president kennedy for an autopsy at walter reed, you just heard it, why was kennedy, once landed diverted to bethesda naval hospital. it's simply a question but the autopsy of an assassinated president is important stuff and missing from all the books written until now. we're heading into the 50th anniversary of the kennedy tapes
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assassination and these will be footed noted in all books in the future. this is a serious find. i don't know the rare book manuscript market and who would want to purchase it but from an historian's point of view, it's important information. >> it's fascinating. an absorbing and compelling story. sat in this guy's house, and even the warren commission never heard this tape, i think is extraordinary. thank you for bringing it in and douglas, for putting it in historical context. i'm sure this will run and run, the unheard jfk assassination tapes. quite extraordinary. >> after the break, i will bring out the single most annoying man i've ever met in my life. howie mandel, my former co-judge on america's g"america's got t." i don't know why i'm doing this. i got that wrong didn't i? [ male announcer ] want great taste and whole grain oats
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howie mandel, so he tells me, is a terrific stand-up comic and also the single most annoying man i ever met in my entire life. he was my co-worker on ameri "america's got talent" and i couldn't stand working with him a moment later. just like i miss the dentist, i miss howie mandel like getting my teeth extracted one by one. he's also conquered his fear of
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gem germs and wouldn't even shake hands with me, even if he didn't have ocd. joining me now, howie. >> what a gracious welcome. i feel like i am at a party i wasn't invited to. it's great to be here. it was fascinating. i was watching the show backstage, your last segment. i think you asked all the right questions. i don't think you got an answer. you kept saying, what is the significance? i think i'm slightly intelligence. >> isn't the significance the fact no one's heard it, even if- >> the general and -- you said, what is that worth? they go, i can't say, i'm not an expert on that. nobody's heard that. >> if you are a conspiracy theorist, i'm not, i don't believe in any of the conspiracy theory, if you were and heard that general lemay was the guy everyone knows really hated kennedy, he was somehow
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airbrushed from this tape deliberately and the warren commission never heard it and it becomes intriguing. >> you are saying that. the truth is, it wasn't airbrushed deliberately, there was one reel of tape lost in a box. >> how do you know? >> i just saw it on your show. >> how do you know he wasn't told to hide it? sn>> because it wouldn't just b in somebody's box in their estate. it would have been destroy. tapes have been destroyed before. you've watched tv. they can destroy these tapes. they don't say you know what, this is high level information, let's put it in a box. >> do you believe in any conspiracy theories? >> no. >> none of them? >> i think it's fun to do. i don't think we know anything but i don't think there's a conspiracy. i don't think we know anything about politics. i don't think we understand as a nation how to vote and i don't think we know why we vote for things, they're always for the lo wrong reason, it's because we like somebody. we don't understand what they
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will do for their country. >> it must be a fertile ground, the republican race? >> i'm always marketing. i'm selling the show "mobbed" on fox. i don't talk about politics for fear i will offend at least half or a quarter of the audience and they won't watch, you know. he's a left wing, right wing, i don't want you to know that. >> do you talk about it on your stand-up? >> no. i've talked about the fact it's a different time. this may not seem weird to you because you're piers. the fact we're talking about newts and mitts and obamas and newts. a few years back, it was just bill and george. now, newt and mitt, newt and obama. >> i can't stand silly first names. >> piers. is that common in england. piers is old english for peter. i was named after piers plowman. >> years ago, they couldn't say peter? >> no. it was called piers. >> why is that peter?
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>> i don't know. why are you called howie zbrnkts. >> that's old english for ned. >> let's watch a clip from your -- >> "mobbed". >> from "mobbed." >> this is spectacular. watch this. >> oh, my god! >> we want to! >> let me tell you what this is. >> let me put something to you first. here is a guy who has one of the world's most infamous germaphobias, right? >> yes. >> your idea for a tv show is to bring thousands of people all crammed into a small space. >> first of all, do you see me in the middle of that crowd? it's an idea and great show. it's spontaneous music and dance. this week, it's amazing, actually the best one yet. watch right after "american idol" on wednesday. if you have something intimate you want to share with somebody that would change their life
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forever, the clip you saw was from a past show on the internet with a girl five years and never met her and now he wanted to proclaim his feelings about her, so much so he thought -- he employed us. he flew out to l.a. from pittsburgh with everything he owned in a truck to say, i really care about you, i want to stay with you. if you ayes, everything in my truck will stay here and if you say no, i go. >> knowing you as i do -- >> but why -- >> knowing you as i do, i would imagine a large part of you is hoping it will go wrong because on "america's got talent" you loved it when things went wrong. privately you love the dark moments. you have the darkest soul i ever worked with. >> can i set the record straight? >> you can try. >> here is what the record is. my entree into comedy, the first time i was really entertained by anything comical was by a man by the name of alan funt.
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do you know who he is? he had a show called "candid camera." >> i love that. >> it began on radio and television. i thought as a young boy, i didn't understand jokes and material, i thought it was very funny, very relatable, to see people, he brought the audience in, to see people in awkward positions so you could relate to it. you'd laugh at them and be part of the joke. it was kind of fun to see how they'd react to it. i've made that my whole life, you see somebody on stage awkward or uncomfortable makes me laugh. you didn't relate to the characters i relate to. rather than seeing another singer i can see on any cruise or any karaoke bar, if i saw somebody that was like a tiny tim who wasn't necessarily that voice of tiny tim wasn't great, or if i saw somebody, i actually saw him last night, i'm on tour doing standup, roneth. >> that's a good example.
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>> he has a strong indian accent. >> he was the least funny comedian than you. you loved him. >> he thought he could do impressions. >> he was terrible. >> that's why he was funny. >> that's why i had to leave the show. >> i will miss you. >> i won't miss you. howard stone when we come back. you have the impossible job of following me. >> are we at the commercial yet? ] ♪ [ female announcer ] life is full of little tests, but your basic paper towel can handle them. especially if that towel is bounty basic. the towel that's durable and scrubbable. in this lab demo, bounty basic is stronger than the leading bargain brand. everyday life. bring it with bounty basic. affordably priced. tested by everyday life.
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♪ oh beautiful for spacious ♪ o beautiful for spacious skies ♪ ♪ for am berg waber waves of gr♪ ♪ for purple mountains imagine industry ♪ ♪ above the fruited planes ♪ oh beautiful, oh, beautiful >> i don't want to throw any crimp in the campaign, but he is actually lip syncing. that was pretaped because he didn't wan to make a mistake. >> that was the first time i wanted to get back on "america's got talent" when i heard that. >> it's great television because it's awkward and uncomfortable. rather than just someone speaking and you saying who is that? >> patrick's beer just want to say why is this idiot on piers morgan tonight?
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wow, he's really annoying and stupid. >> that's not fair, jack welch is a wonderful guy. he's not here to defend himself, but i will say i've all traut trusted in what he said. >> how are you feeling about howard stern replacing me? >> i'll be totally honest, i loved working with you much more than you loved working with me. but i'm okay with adversity. and you were the king of adversity for me. i'm a huge fan of howard stern. i think he'll do a wonderful job. and i -- what he brings to the show and you did it also, is honesty and fearlessness. >> do you think he's going to offend the whole of america? would you like him to? >> no, i don't think that's our job. our job is to be honest and say what we think. we stand in a place of authority, as far as being over 30 years in different ends of showbizne showb business to say what i think is marketable. it's better to be polarizing
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than complacent and people don't care about you. >> the advantage he has, i think, is at least he's american. >> i just got a tweet. who is that gorgeous, stunning guy? >> how many followers do you have? >> howie m mandel. >> you began two years before me. >> shart thousanding me at howie m mandel. let's see how many followers i get. >> why would anyone want to follow you? >> i'm wonderfully entertaining. who told you about twitter? and now you're on a very powerful -- >> six times as many followers as you. >> i don't get a chance to plug it. >> i'm six times as popular as you. officially. >> from the moment you said hello you've been making me feel comfortable here. i didn't do anything. i'm just me.
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>> you tormented me. >> i existed. >> just by being alive, you annoyed me. >> is that why you called me here today? >> i would like you to apologize. >> for being me? >> say sorry for being so annoying. just say i'm howie -- this is like -- >> it's like annoying anonymous. >> i'm just going to plug. watch mom on wednesday after "idol." >> i cut you off. >> i already said it. "mobbed" on wednesday. great show. >> it's going to tank in the ratings. >> it's going to do great. fantastic. this show is powerful. i just got two more followers. who knew that this show had this power. three! you did abarticle how you're not going to miss "america's got talent." which picture should i do? 2 or 1 in tell me. 2? okay, closer. closer. look at piers.
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>> i'm asleep. >> he's asleep. that's how exciting it was for him to be there. >> i was listening to one of your ridiculous critiques. the interest thing about america right now is that everyone is wrestling with what has happened to the american dream. you and i have had the great fortune to come to america, you from canada, me from great britain and be the sort of fortuitous beneficiaries of the american dream. >> can i just say something about this? i think it's amazing, and i think this is -- and i'm all for capitalism and i think this is great and you can do what you want. i don't think the problem is political. and i don't think the problem is economical. this is very exciting. we are at the cusp of a brand-new age. you know, originally the first age was the land barons. then the industrial revolution. and that was the advent of industry. now we're in a new digital age.
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we don't even know how to monetize it. our book and our phone and our -- this is how we read and entertain ourselves. blockbusters are going by the wayside. you think about this. and you realize the guy that was making the cover, the people working in the plastic, people working in barnes & noble, all these industries are going away. it's not because of something the government did. it's how advanced we've become and we can't catch up with that technical advancement. >> but what happens to 30 million people without jobs? >> we have to -- and this is -- i don't know. i don't know. it's like bill gates and steve jobs. they found a new way. and we have to find a new way. >> hold your thought and we'll come back. i actually start to like you when you talk like this. you're quite intelligent. >> i really am. i'm brilliant. >> come back and discover the future of mankind. .. mmmm. ...and a touch of sweetness.
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>> howie mandel, got a tweet here from sharon osborne. she said piers morgan you are a bleep, bleep. you don't call or write and now you're interviewing howie mandel without me. >> four more


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